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Wait another five to ten years and you'll get to see someone else do it. Maybe someone who isn't suspect.
if you had been watching him hit his 755th home run you would have heard that the pitcher he hit it off of was suspended for steriods.
So for all of you computer geeks who have never thrown a ball or swung a bat, EVERYONE DOES STEROIDS!
How many pitches do you think hank aaron saw IN HIS LIFETIME that went 95 mph, let alone 3 foot curve balls going that fast?
it is not a problem isolated to the bohemoths like giambi and bonds, it is a prerequisite for atheletes who perform on the global level. if you think anything else than you have no idea the competitive capacity these guys are playing with. if you pulled every guy who has ever used steroids out of the league you would be lucky to have ten percent of the league left.
and hank aaron took 2,500 more at bats to hit his home runs! 2,500 hundred more at bats!
are you saying that if hank aaron took drugs, and still faced the ******ty pitchers back then... then HE would have hit 755 in 2,500 less at bats?!
this is nonsense.
most of this country is just a bunch of winers who can't play sports, so they bitch about barry bonds because they want to justify the lie to themselves when they say "if i had done drugs i would have been able to make varsity squad too."
no concept of atheletic competition.
''How many pitches do you think hank aaron saw IN HIS LIFETIME that went 95 mph''
I'm not sure why you think pitchers throw harder now. JR Richard in the 70's or early 80's threw the fastest clocked pitch[over 110 miles an hour] And Bob Feller was clocked unscientificly against a speeding motorcycle in the 50's, and beat it. He was said to throw around 100 regularly, and those that faced him and Lefty Grove of the 1930's, said the mean-spirited Grove threw harder.
I think the big fastball is like the big punch to a fighter, a natural gift. Afterall, could the right combination of steroids and work effort have made a Doug Jones or jamie Moyer throw 95?
Plus these young 19 and 20 year olds not even fully grown and filled out, beanpoles like Justin verlander, come up throwing 95-100...
''most of this country is just a bunch of winers''
you're right, most of the country is a bunch of drunks
i trhink the ways they clocked those balls is suspect.
clocking against a motorcycle isnt accurate even it were timed right since they clock pitches now at the plate and not off the arm, or averaged over the distance... its clocked at its slowest point is what im saying.
and yeah the right combination of steroids could definately make you throw harder... simple test boosts leg mass and mound pressure. all young pitchers do it. and the heavy science can absolutely enhance grib, spin, turn, and the rotator cuff. the stuff they use now physically changes the fibre content of a muscle to transform precision and stability muscles into fast twitch pwer muscles.
With or without steroids, Bonds would have never hit Sandy Koufax or Bob Gibson. In fact not one of today pitchers are even in the same class as Koufax and Gibson.
In fact the best pitcher in baseball today is considered to be Johan Santana and he couldn't even hold a candle to either Koufax or Gibson. I am from Minnesota and Santana is nothing but a two-pitch pitcher, a changeup and a fastball. He can't throw a curveball and when he attempts to throw a slider, its much less than mediocre at best; whereas, Koufax threw harder, had a tremendous curveball and a much better changeup than Santana. Doesn't say too much for pitching these days especially when Santana has already won 2 Cy Youngs and should have won 3 in a row.
You got good points. I was into baseball in the 50's and 60's when Aaron was around.
He faced some fair pitchers. Do the names Koufax, Drysdale, Burdette, Spahn, Sutton, Marichal, etc ring any bells.
Those guys all could pitch and especially Koufax was known for a 100mph curve ball that broke 2-3 feet. You look at him, or any of them in later life, and you can see they never did steroids. You want a comparison look at Mark McGuire only several years out of the game and you see the effects on the body of no longer taking the steroids.
I believe the truth about Bonds will come in 20 years when you look at his body. You can't hide the fact of steroid use in prior years at that time.
The pitchers were better back then, the parks were a lot larger, further to hit a home run back then, made them smaller cause fans like to see homers,and maybe space,they play longer seasons now who knows, in my opine, Bonds has no record in my eyes, except the amazing expanding hat size, besides he has and always will be an arrogant sob.
Yeah "maybe" he couldn't hit off all those guys, but he hasn't hit off of a lot of people. He didn't hit a homer off everyone he faced.
I agree with you. But until it is proven, he is innocent. It amazes though that because his body type has changed, he's doing steriods. Is Barry Bonds the only African American player whose body type has changed during his career? Magic Johnson got bigger and heavier as he got older but no one accused him of using steriods. And these pitchers (I heard more than one was using steriods) who pitched to Bonds, has anyone accused them of tainting Bonds' record? And the media amazes me. Because Bonds won't speak to them, they put words in his mouth and make up things. Which is the reason he doesn't talk to them anymore. Bonds has said that he's saying no comment because the media prints what it wants no matter what he says. And the kicker, has anyone including the media ever stop to think what this talk does to his family, especially his kids? No one cares for the truth, just what sells stories and news items.
If he were clean, I bet he would submit to a test. That's just my opinion. His refusal infers he has something to hide.
Definitely not the kind of 'hero' I want my children idolizing. Even IF he is clean, he is so rude, condescending and arrogant that he is not a suitable role model for anyone.
He didn't face Burdette and Spahn. He was on the same team they were.
OK apparently the fastest documented clocked pitch was 103, from a few sources.
I always heard JR Richard threw one 111, but there's apparently no documentatiom
Such arrogance Santa! Most of those who play sports, either for pay or pleasure, do not find it necessary to use drugs to enhance their abilities. They play the sport because they enjoy the competition and because they enjoy simply doing so and I would venture to say that they are far better individuals than you could ever be!
are you serious?
these guys are being paid millions of dollars for atheletics... of course they use steroids. they would be bad at their jobs if they didn't. the ability to hit a ball 20 feet further means millions of dollars on a contract. why wouldnt you take a few orals or a rub?
its so naive to think these guys have never misused medication to benefit their ability to play the game.
No matter what you do in life, go ahead and cheat, get the extra 20 points on the test, get the job over a more qualified person. Cheating, shaving points all for the sake of gaining unfair advantage. What a role model you are, no wonder kids don't believe in Santa any more.
No skippy it isn't naive to state what is clearly a fact! The majority of those who play sports do so for the love of the game and neither use drugs nor have any desire to do so.
You claim the opposite is true, but you offer nothing to support your claim other than they make millions of dollars annually. While it is true that some major league baseball players make such sums the majority make far less and if you look at the minors they make far less than that! The same applies to all of the other major sports leagues. Then there are the tens of thousands who play college and high school ball and the millions who simply get together for scratch games on any given week night or weekend.
It seems that as far as you are concerned any form of cheating is permissible if that is what it takes to win and all I can say is that I thank the gods that be that you and your ilk are a very small minority!
you are an idiot...the fact that Hank in his day didn't do steroids and I can think of some mighty fine pitchers back then who didn't as well Ford, Kofax to name just a couple is beyond your intelligence. Get a life!!!!!
He uses drugs, they use drugs, why bother playing anything unless you got some iv dripped drugs into you 24/7.